[fakhrul77]

My wife works as a Lotus Notes Admin (project & maintenance), and most of her girl friends works on software development & maintenance, some ada yg kerja bhg antivirus.

In my work place most of the ladies works on development (AS/400), malah ada yg kerja sbg sys. admin (linux & win2k)

I don't think it's that hard for a woman to find a decent job in the IT industry. But frankly, mmg sekarang fresh grad IT susah nak cari kerja.. he.. he..

[kevler]

saya pun respek gak kat member Ittutor nih ..perempuan ..not a girl laa

kerja kat Time ...jadi Net. engineer ...respek giler ...hihihi

salute giler beb

[obelicks]

ala kat gomen pun berlambak
apa masalahnye..

laki pompuan sama je..



hacker pompuan pun ada pe..

[kevler]

tuh aa pasal ..ramai gak hacker perempuan masa nih ..tak pernah plak yang dengar dari malaysia ..mmg respek laa ...aku pun cuma newbie jer

[drangkos]

no la....
dun believe such things....
believe wat u can do my fren....

[powerpuffgirl]

susahkan naruto....org tak leh nak nilai kelebihan kite...alasannye..kite takleh nak work overtime because we are married... :-(

[jemei]

susahkan naruto....org tak leh nak nilai kelebihan kite...alasannye..kite takleh nak work overtime because we are married... :-(

in reality, kebanyakkannyer boleh ke?

[powerpuffgirl]

terpulang kepada masing2..kalo nak berjaya dlm kerjya..kene ade pengorbanan..kene bijak bahagikan mase...just a little sen from me....

[kaklie78]

kat gomen memang ramai pompuan keje IT ... majoriti... tapi yang tak tahan sape yg jadi vendor la..... pressure...

[sniper]

errr... kat tempat aku nih... 70% IT officer ialah pompuan... heheheheeheheheheheheheheheee....

[Aiza]

saya pun respek gak kat member Ittutor nih ..perempuan ..not a girl laa

kerja kat Time ...jadi Net. engineer ...respek giler ...hihihi

salute giler beb

aku mcm tahu je sape
heheheheh

[mbek]

disebalik kelembutan itu terselindung kehebatan yg x dpt dipertikaikan..

some say wanita2 dlm arena it x berapa lawo... aku x setuju sgt.. sebab ramai dah aku jumpa wanita2 IT yg .. perghhhh.... x tahan.. bukan setakat lawo... kehebatan dia pun aku jd malu... hhhehehehe..

[junior_programmer]

perempuan x susah nak bersaing dalam it nie.....kalau dia org okey tak segan ....rajin belajar memang x de masalah la.....ala korang baru tgk pompuan dalam bidang it..korang tak tgk kat tempat aku nie (sykt motobike)...pomen dia pompuan...expert gile modified motor....

[obelicks]

lelaki pompuan macam sama tapi cara pemikiran dan pendekatan berbeza.. dah tuhan jadikan berbeza pun.. lelaki sama lelaki pun berbeza..

apapuns emua bergantung kepada usaha.. ada banyak cara nak capai kejayaan bergantung kepada usaha.. cam nak menuju destinasi ada yang berjalan merangkak atau naik kenderaan.. apapun cara yang dipilih good lucks..

[drangkos]

salam...
yang penting:
usaha tangga kejayaan

[obelicks]

yeap

cam company aku dulu susah benor nak hantar pompuan pi memana..

tak kira bujang ke dah kawin lagi la memacam alasan.. diaorang ni bagi... kadang meluat pulak..

nak hantar pompuan ngan pompuan pun banyak alasan padahal training je.. tak sampai seminggu pun.. dalam negeri pun susah lagi luar negeri..

bukan semua la ada gak yang ok je pi sorang2 survive je.. tapi nak kate leh kire la.. kebanyakanye musti banyak alasan dan halangan.. yerla kan insan yang lemah kate dia.

hak hak hak..

[cik_pong]

aku mcm tahu je sape
heheheheh

uik sapa tu aiza? kim salam kat dia.

aku admit, kekadang ada bias for ladies yg grad IT ni nak cari kerja, reasonnyer camtulah.. mcm2 hal. mmglah pompuan ni mcm2 hal tapi jika diberi peluang, dia buleh lagi handal dari lelaki.

actually, this is not pasal bias or apa, cuma some ppl have negative perception on ladies (lady driver pun kutuk), and some will say, takder rezeki lagi kot..aku dulu pun 6 bulan bukak ladang anggur b4 dpt kijer. alhamdulillah skang aku kijer dlm bidang yg aku nak.

[jemei]

kesimpulannyer kalau saya bos, saya akan cuba tidak mengambil org pompuan dlm bidang teknikal. Bagi saya kalau amik pompuan risiko dia tinggi berbanding org lelaki.
Bukan maksud saya semua org pompuan takleh keja teknikal, cuma saya tak mau bila diambil berkerja ada pulak alasan tak boleh buat tu tak boleh buat ni dgn alasan dia pompuan. So ada sbb kalau ramai employer2 kurang berminat nak ambil pompuan utk keja teknikal, bukan sbb suka2 saje tak mau hire diorg.

[wanalina]

sbnrnye ada staff pompuan kt sini....atau mungkin pompuan yg pakai tudung agak labuh ni susah ker?? atau mungkin sbb aku dah kawin?? betul ke??

salams.. topik yg agak menarik..for naruto..me myself pun dah kawin.. pun dah ada anak.. dan juga bertudung..cuma tak tudung labuh la.. kalau nak cite pasal keje memang pempuan yg berkahwin nih kene pandai-pandai la.. for me..kalau nak keje...kene keje betul-betul..buat betul2 sbb tu amanah.. but at the same time..kene gak pandai bagi masa utk family.. so kalau kita dalam situation mcm nih..kite kene think so many aspect.. kite kene plan betul2..bukan kire asal dpt keje je.. so the important things is.. keje tu betul2 kita minat.. dan keje tu nanti tak membebankan kita sehingga.. pressure tu terbawa2 ke rumah... kalau kita dah minat satu2 keje tu..rasa mmg takde masalah la... but timing yg plg penting.. yg plg sesuai utk org dah berkawin bagi teman la..sama ada kerja gomen..lecturer..or cikgu.. tak kira ipts or ipta.. me myself sendiri after abis blaja tak sempat grad lagi pun, jadi lecturer kat ipts.. kira luck la.. for 2 and half years kat situ.. then pindah pie astro..but astro punya time mmg tak ble nak kompromi..so quit.. and from dec 04 until this month tadak keje duk umah.. imagine la..get use ngan keje then kene duk umah..rasa useless je..bila duk dlm this situation baru tau camne feel org yg xde keje.. for me experience pun tak cukup utk sng dpt keje..usaha tu yang penting..but depends pada area yg kita mintak gak..kat ipoh mcm teman nih mmg susah la...so last week dpt interview.. then alhamdullilah dpt..my favourite job..also lecturer.. advice kat sini..rajin2 la surf atau cari sbrg maklumat about any vacant..buat la apa cara pun.. teman sendiri brp byk masuk forum dan open topic -keje kat ipoh - (if korang notice, kat ittutor nih pun ada topic tu..eheks )-jobstreet - lagi la..everyday bukak.. dan sometime tertanya2 gak.. jobstreet nih bleh pakai ke.. and guess what?? offer yang baru dpt nih..from jobstreet.. so mmg jgn pandang rendah website yg mcm jobstreet dan yg sewaktu dengannya.. yang penting usaha..cuba la yea..jgn putus asa.. pahtu mintak kat Tuhan.. insyaAllah.. ada la rezeki kita.. and last but not least...

~Kejayaan atau kegagalan adalah tanggungjawab diri kita sendiri~
so think about it yarrr... adios amigos --FIN-

for naruto.. if nak discuss apa2 just pm me

[junior_programmer]

kalo kat tempat den plak...lelaki yg soh pompuan...pompuan la yg p pasang hub la...repair pc la...angkat pc la...hehe..respek la kat senior2 den..

perggghhhh tak pernah dibuat....shameless betul la kalau laki suruh pompuan...dunia it nie laki pompuan penting.....pompuan teori dan lelaki teknikal ...kalau digabungkan menjadi satu pasukan yang kuat!!!

[obelicks]

ada gak kawan aku buat camtu untuk train staff pompuan dia..
tapi sib baik dia tu cekal ok la leh master gak le jadinye.. dari tak tahu ape..

cuma yerla.. kena rajin dan memahirkan diri je bukan susah pun IT nih bukan 24 jam kena angkat server kena buat itu ini kadang masa relak tu siap leh kait baju lagi kekekekek..

apapun banyak techies2.. laki pompuan.. ilmu leh diterima oleh otak laki dan pompuan cuma cara camna nak aply camna nak dipelajari kadang tak sama..

tu aje..

apapun kekuatan dan kekurangan keduanya (laki & pompuan) diperlukan bagi membentuk satu pasukan yang kukuh..

walau ilmu setinggi mana pun semua tu bukan milik kita kekal abadi.. Jadi jangan la sombong sgt

wallahualam..

[junior_programmer]

ada gak kawan aku buat camtu untuk train staff pompuan dia..
tapi sib baik dia tu cekal ok la leh master gak le jadinye.. dari tak tahu ape..

cuma yerla.. kena rajin dan memahirkan diri je bukan susah pun IT nih bukan 24 jam kena angkat server kena buat itu ini kadang masa relak tu siap leh kait baju lagi kekekekek..

apapun banyak techies2.. laki pompuan.. ilmu leh diterima oleh otak laki dan pompuan cuma cara camna nak aply camna nak dipelajari kadang tak sama..

tu aje..

apapun kekuatan dan kekurangan keduanya (laki & pompuan) diperlukan bagi membentuk satu pasukan yang kukuh..

walau ilmu setinggi mana pun semua tu bukan milik kita kekal abadi.. Jadi jangan la sombong sgt

wallahualam..

cakap2 bernas dari sorang orang lama dalam it...terima kasih bro obelicks...ok kita semua dah dengar pendapat dari mereka yang sentiasa mengikuti perkembangan dunia it ...especially di malaysia...ok ape lagi ...kepada semua budak it pompuan ...jangan jadikan alasan jantina menyebabkan anda sukar dapat keje...yang penting keyakinan..rezeki ada di mana2...yang penting kita kena pandai cari....biar kita (eh...cam aku pompuan lak)....semua tunjukkan yang semua budak it di malaysia terutama pompuan boleh setanding di peringkat antarabangsa...bg pompuan buat sesuatu sampai boleh membuka mata it company di malaysia...supaya tanggapan negatif dia orang terhadap kemampuan org pompuan terhapus...sekian

[kevler]

baru hari nih aku baca

http://thestar.com.m...4125&sec=nation

Majority of female grads without relevant skills

NIBONG TEBAL: More than 65% of female graduates in the country are unemployed because they lack social and communication skills, said Human Resources Minister Datuk Dr Fong Chan Onn.

He said other factors leading to the high rate of unemployment among female graduates included poor command of language and low degree of self-confidence.

He added that many female graduates had achieved excellent academic results but they could not gain employment without relevant skills required in the job market.

“The number of unemployed female graduates is much higher compared to male graduates,” he told reporters on Sunday at the Women's Day celebration organised by Jawi assemblyman Tan Cheng Liang's service team here. 

Dr Fong said his ministry had proposed for social and communication components to be absorbed into local universities' curriculum to overcome the unemployment problem. 

He added that his ministry was discussing the matter with the Higher Education Ministry.

Dr Fong said the marketing and insurance sectors offered a vast employment opportunity but most female graduates did not demonstrate suitable skills to secure jobs in these fields.

“Most female students prefer to pursue teaching and nursing but unfortunately, we cannot accommodate all female students in both fields,” he added. 

Dr Fong said his ministry had been holding retraining programmes for unemployed graduates.

“According to our records, all the graduates managed to find employment after undergoing the retraining programme,” he added.

In her speech earlier, Tan urged more women to join politics so they could fight for better women's rights and equality in the country.

About 1,000 people attended the annual dinner, which was held for the fifth consecutive year. 

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PM concerned with growing graduate unemployment rate

KUALA LUMPUR: Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi has described the graduate unemployment rate as serious and called on all parties to cooperate to overcome the problem before it gets out of hand.

The Prime Minister said the government was also working to overcome the problem, including looking at the possibility of reviving the retraining scheme for unemployed graduates to help them secure jobs.

“We must work very hard to overcome this problem. Don't let this huge figure snowball because the problem that follows will balloon, too.

“I regard it as serious enough. We have to tackle it when it is small, we cannot wait until it is big. By then it will be very, very difficult (to solve),” he said after performing the groundbreaking ceremony for the Universiti Malaya Alumni Association Clubhouse, here, yesterday.

Latest government statistics show that there were 80,000 unemployed graduates in the country last year.

Asked whether the problem was due to the fact that the courses taken by these graduates did not meet market needs, he said this could be a reason but he believed that there were other causes.

“Maybe those who are looking for jobs and those who are looking for workers don't meet,” he said.

On reviving the retraining scheme for unemployed graduates, Abdullah said the scheme, which was conducted last year, had helped graduates find employment.

He said he was leaving it to Human Resources Minister Datuk Dr Fong Chan Onn to prepare the working paper and its implementation.

http://thestar.com.m...2332&sec=nation

This post has been edited by kevler: 22 March 2005 - 05:57 PM