Ihack 2008 Please do join in
#4
Posted 31 May 2008 - 09:15 PM
ko kene turun padang juga ker kali nie ..
hahahhahaa
tahun ni x dpt...psl aku dah x keje SCAN
#6
Posted 05 June 2008 - 12:06 PM
So,is IHack just going to be another 'Script Kiddies Playground Get-to-gether' or will it evolve something into the likes of Defcon?
Else, event ni jadi event orang kumpul T-shirt and pakai T-shirt just to show to others 'Been there'.
Sometimes, lebih ramai orang yg pakai t-shirt 'Crew' dari pengunjung.
This post has been edited by Jagermeist: 05 June 2008 - 12:07 PM
#7
Posted 06 June 2008 - 08:19 AM
pastinya penuh ngan budak uitm jer ..
aku dapat rasa event nie pastinya mendapat sambutan yang amat menggalakkan..
minta2 tak lah "crew" jer yang ramai dari pengunjung ..
kat dalam ittutor nie takder ker salah sorang dari penganjur ..
boleh bagi info sikit ..
#8
Posted 25 June 2008 - 03:03 AM
#9
Posted 27 June 2008 - 02:45 PM
yang dah keje elok pi defcon ke blackhat ke hitb ke
tengok ni.. incoming August:
https://www.defcon.o...kers.html#Smith
lclee_vx
Founder F-13 Labs
This talk documents the common file infection strategies that virus writers have used over the years, conduct the comparison of Portable Executable (PE) file infection on the Windows platform and Executable and Linking Format (ELF) file infection on the Linux Platform.
lclee_vx founded the Independent Virus Group F-13 Labs. Also is active virus coder in EOF-Project. lclee_vx has worked in security company Scan-Associates, served for 4 years as the security consultant. Now further the study in University Kebangsaan Malaysia as PHD student, majoring Antivirus Core Engine Design.
This post has been edited by mnajem: 27 June 2008 - 02:49 PM
#10
Posted 27 June 2008 - 05:56 PM
UiTM/MIMOS pun organize APTISS - Asia Paccific Information Security Summer School.
Tapi beza APTISS ni, its 5 days event and invited only,Masters and Phd students from Asia Paciffic countries,Japan,India etc.
3-4 students only per country. It's also a sponsored event.
Speakers from HP Labs and MS Research.
So, from Mesia, tatau IPTA mana yg akan dapat pegi.
This post has been edited by Jagermeist: 27 June 2008 - 05:59 PM
#11
Posted 17 August 2008 - 10:24 PM
Total waste of time and sponsor's $$$.
Next year, aku propose, UiTM x payah buat event mcm ni, gunakan duit nak bayar gaji lecturer kasi pandai sikit or bagi student supaya lagi bernas.
UTP menang lagi CTF.
Punyalah jauh datang Ryan Connely, takdak sorang tanya soalan, ada yg tanya soalan pun, Head Of IHack, mcm baca skrip jek.
Lain2 budak2 UiTM, nganga jek. Lecturer UiTM pun menganga jek.
A comment from an attendee from a goverment agency, 'Kalau buat Snort mcm tuh jek, baik x payah datang'.
And a comment from member aku yg bukak booth,only during last day a lecturer dtg tanya pasal product forensic tool dia.
UiTM ada hati nak jadikan event ni 'International'?
Budak2 UiTM ni, kalau suruh berarak, menyalak mcm *woof* pandai jek, suruh buat research and present, content mcm najis.
Seriously, wasting my time and also the sponsors.
#12
Posted 17 August 2008 - 10:26 PM
yang dah keje elok pi defcon ke blackhat ke hitb ke
tengok ni.. incoming August:
https://www.defcon.o...kers.html#Smith
Crappiest security event ever and a letdown by our IPTA.
Dumb8$$ academician talking crap. Suruh pegi berdemo pandai, suruh buat research and content, x pandai. Moron!
So, how was MyEDUSecc?
#14
Posted 18 August 2008 - 10:42 AM
Last year lagi dah ditegur,beberapa aspek yg harus UiTM improve in IHack.
Orang mcm Kamal Hilmi dah tegur lecturer2 yg menganjurkan IHack ni, directly.
Tapi, as always, fell on death ears, or event ni untuk nak kasi lecturer tuh punya star shine.
Satu lagi masaalah, student ni mungkin x didedahkan on IT Security.
Undergrad and postgrad degree memang takde specific on Security.
So, bila bukak booth mcm Encase or bawak orang mcm Ryan Connelly, nganga je lah.
Takde sapa pun singgah booth Encase, ntah tau Encase tuh apa ke tak.
Mcm mana ni, nak go 'International', tapi majoriti attendees local, worst on-campus student.
Pegi menyalak kat SUK Selangor, pandai pulak organize.
Hopeless and fakap habis.
#16
Posted 18 August 2008 - 11:37 AM
Rugi la budak UiTM, since Ryan Connelly datang buat 'scouting', nak cari potential staff untuk kompeni dia.
Dia nak bukak kompeni kat Mesia, so di IPTA dan event mcm IHack dia ingat dia boleh cari reliable candidate.
But, hampeh. Dah la dia fly-in pakai $$$ sendiri, bukan UiTM sponsor pun.
#18
Posted 18 August 2008 - 03:37 PM
Dia nak bukak kompeni kat Mesia, so di IPTA dan event mcm IHack dia ingat dia boleh cari reliable candidate.
But, hampeh. Dah la dia fly-in pakai $$$ sendiri, bukan UiTM sponsor pun.
So far ada ke bebudak UiTM yg pandai pasal security ni?
#19
Posted 18 August 2008 - 04:01 PM
Tatau sekarang, 10 years ago, ada geng2 mcm Pisang,Toyok,abcdeath etc kaki DDOS from UiTM.
Tatau mana budak2 ni keje skang. Skill mereka diasah bukan kerana ITM provided the infra or the training, but they were just curious.
Masaalah utama aku lihat, UiTM itu sendiri sebagai sebuah IPTA, x provide enough support nak kasi studentnya mahir.
First and foremost, kalau lecturer x mahir, mcm mana nak inspire student? Secondly, you need internet connection and lab.
Mana ada lab di UiTM or mana2 IPTA yg bukak 24 hours. UTP yg kaya sponsored by Petronas tuh pun, lecturers selalu complain, lab tutup petang.
For example, ko nak test Snort, so what do you need? An access to a lab, and also access to tap the entire campus router.
In the first place, just the idea of doing that is so red-tape ridden, that it would just kill off the interest of student/researchers.
Security is not a 9-5 job, masaalahnya lecturer2 ni semua mentaliti, 9-5,5 days a week. Dia tahu, pegi buat masters, peluang untuk dia bawak satu family for a paid vacation. Where is the process of learning?
What is security's focus in the diploma,degree and MSc program?
I hope the lecturers do read this, because they need to buck up or just cancel the damn fanfare program all togheter.
Toksah menjaja working paper Ihack ke sana sini nak mintak sponsorship $$$ kalau content mcm haprak.
Setakat nak organize event, Persatuan IT sekolah menengah pun boleh buat.
I don't blame the students entirely, I blame the lecturers for not doing enough. Ini bukan 1st time, dah x number of years dah.
#20
Posted 19 August 2008 - 11:28 AM
Dia nak bukak kompeni kat Mesia, so di IPTA dan event mcm IHack dia ingat dia boleh cari reliable candidate.
But, hampeh. Dah la dia fly-in pakai $$$ sendiri, bukan UiTM sponsor pun.
setau aku memang dia nak settle down kat sini.. wife dia pun dah syok lepak sini.
ituhari aku ajak dia mai tempat aku time tu kawan dia cakap nak pi Jepung lak.
#22
Posted 19 August 2008 - 01:50 PM
Kita kena jajah pasal orang kita mostly 'unteachable, ignorants and suffering learning impaired'.
Kalau ada expert in the field, kita belaja dari mereka, since tiadanya or kurang expert dalam negara kita.
He's not the only expert, but quite an expert in his field and given many talks here in Malaysia.
Point is, to bring those experts to talk here is not cheap, T&E alone cost a bomb.
The organizer and students didn't use his presence to the full extent.
Ko x penah dengar, pasal maybe ko memenugi karekter di atas.
#23
Posted 19 August 2008 - 02:52 PM
Ko x penah dengar, pasal maybe ko memenugi karekter di atas.
dah la bro...jgn di layan. tak tau leh cari pe..aku pun x tau gak.baca je la thread ni.pas tu cari sapa ryan tu....sekadar mencari ilmu.
#24
Posted 19 August 2008 - 02:56 PM
http://www.first.org...june20_2007.pdf
sharuzzaman kata tengok muka entah2 baya dia
#25
Posted 19 August 2008 - 07:50 PM
1. For the past few years , we received lots of question mainly "kenapa utp power sangat hacking/" , so kami akan menjawab dengan satu frasa yang mungkin menyinggugkan.
"We are not that good, the only reason you guys feel like that is because you guys s***ks big time"
Pahit pedih, tapi itulah hakikat realiti pelajarx2 yang mengambil kursus security or watsoever sh**t diambil di Unix2, kampusx2 kursusx2. Sampai hari ni saya tidak faham mengapa subjek mengenai security tidak diambil secara serious or sekurang-kurangnye memenuhi kriteria untuk karrier pada masa depan. Kadang-kadang saye rase nak tenyeh je muka sorang-sorang "takkan itu pun tak tau".
2. Adakah UTP mempunyai course hacking?
TIDAK SAME SEKALI. tanyelah manex2 student maupun lecturer there are no such thing as hacking courses. Semuanya hanyalah initiasitf sendiri. Kami hanya mempunyai 2 team hackers iaitu Project Tango dan F.nord. Dan hanya satu FOSS group. Dan ketiga-tiga group ini sama sekali tidak mempunyai pengiktirafan maupun sebagai satu persatuan yang sah dalam UTP Kami hanya wujud sebagai golongan underground sematax2. Masuk Ihack bayar duit sendiri, tido umah member , laptop semue sendiri. Kami hanya ada satu lecturer sahaja yang cover kami dalam legal issue.
3. Persepsi kami mengenai Ihack sepanjang zaman....
Student Project Presentation:
Seriously u guys need to level up.. It`s an international level for Godsake!!. Mungkin bunyi ini terasa kasar tapi kita ini mahasiswa seharusnye mempunyai daya intelek atau daya kreativiti project yg lebh tinggi dari itu. Di Uitm kami memang tak berani nak komen lebihx2 tapi maybe sebab dah nak dekat 4 taun u guys should make the project more interesting. Come on Interet Uitm kirax2 66MBps or 44Mbps speed someting like dat? kat UTP tenet slow aje dan dah gile-gile firewall custom rule implementation. Saya enggak pasti bagaiman struktur kursus yang ditawarkan di sana. But all I can u guys that`s not a security presentation at all!
Forums:-
pernah pergi skali 2 kali je. time Amir Haris uat wep cracking ,fsecure talk something and blax3. The point is kalo orang datang bari ceramah ke ape, tanyelah soklan jangan malux2. Kalo takdak soklan pun create lah soklan awalx2 lepas tu pas kat udakx2 suruh tanya. External speakers cam mat saleh actually likes when people asking them question. They can't wait to give all the answers. Adakah salah budaya kita menyebabkan pelajar segan bertanya?
Tidak ada budaya google dan membaca dan semangat ingin tahu?
Ini mungkin benar or mungkin tidak. Tapi adik saya yang baru Form3 pun tahu Redhat9 wujud semasa die sekolah rendah dan skang legacynye adelah Fedora. Tapi takkan terlalu sibuk menyiapkan projek sampai tidak tahu apax2 pun . Dude you guys can just google for the infos. What the heck did u guys use streamyx or other fast ultra internet speed for? Friendster?myspace?Facebook? Benarlah kata Tim O Reilly "Actually the net is build for gossiping".
CTF and Forensic Challenge
Yeah secare jujur , kami masuk ihack sebab nak duit. But we do enjoy the question provided by Scan Associate. U gotta give these guys credits for making the game every year entertaining cam (bro hazim, rinaki, pokley, ayoi, dan the rest of the crew). These guys provided question that can be consider like DevCon qualifying rounds question . But much more easier the devcon of course!!!
Disclaimer
Ini adalah pandangan peribadi saya , tidak mewakili UTP, maupun teammate saye yang lain. Feel free to agree or disagree with me. nak flood blog saye pun buley http://rumble.yondie.org . Sekian
#26
Posted 19 August 2008 - 08:11 PM
Here's my ranting about the who issue. I won't mince my word, pasal aku tengok problem ni sampai bila2 takan solve, because nobody, I mean nobody gives a damn. How do I know, because for the past 5-10 years, nothing has change, and its the SSDD. Regardless whether yg akan baca my rants is a lecturer or students, personally, I don't care. Besides, lecturers baca ke, they're 'academician', and this ain't an academic worthy paper.
Almost every Vice Chancellor's dream is for the university to be world class, who doesn't. Almost all faculty deans wants their graduates to be marketable or renowned, who doesn't. But, why won't they put in more effort in trying to secure their dream, God knows.
During an event last week, aku sempat tanya dengan sorang Dekan IPTA ni, tanya dia study mana, dan masa dia study, dia kerja on-campus etc.
Dia belaja at some MidWest Uni rasanya Indiana U, dan keje on campus, technician computer lab. Dia cakap, walaupun member2 dia keje mcm pizza delivery, or mcm2 keje yg pays better, tapi dia keje lab technician, so dia bule belaja mcm mana kampus dia runs the network. Dari situ, dia ada access nak hands-on apa yg dia belaja. Dia mmg rasa on-campus job dan juga 24 by 7 lab hours memang berguna untuk dia nak memperluaskan ilmu. Heck, that was in the 80's, dan dia dah mengenali internet dan email jauh sebelum Malaysia ini ada MOL or MIMOS etc.
So, next question...kat IPTA yg dia jadi dekan ni, ada ke tak 24 by 7 lab dan boleh ke student keje on campus? No. Why not?
No budget untuk benda2 camni? WTF, no budget? IPTA spends hundreds of RM every year, especially mcm UiTM...konvo berpesta sampai 40 hari 40 malam, ada pulak duit. No budget, no such policy. Wouldn't by having those kind of arrangement benefit the student and lecturers at large? Yes, tapi ini Malaysia, susah...semua decision made by MoE. Red tape, bureaucrats.
Pelik la, the world has change, technology has change rapidly...moores law...Malaysia has announce to the world about MSC, tapi polisi di IPTA, macam tuh jugak. This is only IT, fakulti lain aku tak tau.
Aku pernah jugak tengok, satu IPTA, projek Information System terbengkalai...fakap. Vendor buat keje x siap. WTH? When you have almost unlimated resource, tapi pakai vendor, and fakap? So, aku tanya...ada planning ke, like Diagram 0, UAT etc. No. Was the IT Faculty involve during the planning etc. No. IT Faculty was not invited, tapi IT Department of the Uni yg decided. What monkey arrangement is this? Why is the academia disconnected from the practitioner of IT? Tanya mana2 IPTA, sama jek.
Itu baru benda kecik, belum lagi bab R&D. Any student-lecturer R&D collaboration? No. Kalau ada, it would have been presented during IHack or similar event. WTH.
So, mana2 lecturer yg baca, please make a difference. Jangan la pikir nak balik awal je hari2 or jadi lecturer pasal nak escape the harsh reality of working for a private company. Kalau dulu kata nak jadi lecturer pasal nak buat R&D, do it. Lecturers2 in power, do have the will to get students more involve in the IT operations of the campus. Thats how you harness their skill.
Example, nak ajar student pasal IDS. Get them to install the damn thing, and tap to the core switch of the campus. Sure menarik,mcm2 boleh tengok dalam traffic campus. Tak jahanam la network, the damn box runs on passive mode and transparent.
Well, enough ranting. I'm sure, next year, kalau ada Ihack, its the same sh*t over again, worthless presentation, clueless lecturers and numb audience.
#27
Posted 19 August 2008 - 11:38 PM
Ini aku pun nak komen, sebab semua orang dah komen.
1. Why UTP power?
Sebab diorang nak. Seperti pepetah kantonis, "Wo pu chi tau" di translate jadi, ada daya semua jadi. Tahniah team UTP, korang tapau sampai RM10K ya!!
2. Kenapa event ihack macam ni?
Sebab event ni, event international tau, u guys local, kamal hilmi tu sapa? Orang local je, apa barang nak layan komen Kamal hilmi mahupun mnajem.
3. Kenapa FYP presentation s*ck big time?
Sebab ihack committee( aku excludekan student) sibuk nak event grand, sibuk cari penaja sampai lupa bahawa content lebih penting. Ambil contoh HiTB, start event kecil saje, penerimaan masyarakat pub tak seberapa, tetapi content berkualiti. Sekarang ni, Dhillon tersenyum girang kerana berebut-berebut orang nak sponsor HiTB, berebut-rebut orang luar nak datang kerana kualiti yang bagus di samping harga yang berpatutan. Dulu ada blackhat Asia kan? Selepas HiTB naik, apa dah jadi BlackHat Asia?
4. Y0nd13 tanya, apa yang dibuat dengan line 44Mb or whatsoever tu? Buat google la... google gossip artis, masuk forum sembang seluar dalam orang. Kalau aku ada line 44MB tu , aku minta untuk buat project honeypot/malware collector/trending based on netflow. Mahu paper aku bleh beat Ryan Connolly; Connolly bukan Connelly mahupun Conetto.
5. Dulu ada workshop (Unix/Windows/Security/Network) untuk budak-budak fakulti TMSK anjuran seorang lecturer yang badan besar-besar, pakai spec tu. En Hamid ke namenye? Dengar kata sekarang dah takde.
6. Dulu lecturer tu paksa orang install BSD terutama OpenBSD tetapi sekarang dengar kata dah takde. Fakta ini bukan nak katakan OpenBSD superior berbanding OS lain, tetapi *nix seperti OpenBSD learning curve lebih tinggi, maka dapat mengasah daya pemahaman pelajar terhadap operating system.
7. Dan ini pendapat peribadi aku, dulu lecturer badan besar tu, ada event sekuriti mana-mana bawak student dia pergi, biar dia tak pandai, asalkan student dia yang untung. Pergi FOSSCON bawak student dia, pergi SIG Niser bawak student dia, pergi HiTB pun bawak student dia.
8. Student dulu nak kata power takde le (exception untuk Riaf/Fatah/Titi) tetapi, so far yang keluar, Alhamdulillah aku kerja dengan diorang terbukti boleh buat kerje walaupun kadang-kadang aku rasa macam nak lempang je, sebab aku suruh siapkan report, dia pergi hentam main Warcraft.
9. Lecturer mengajar security tak nak berada dalam community security di industry. Hey, wake up la, di malaysia, security is driven by the industry.
10. Sebab nama dia ihack, kalau nama dia imac ke iloveyou ke, mungkin lebih bagus sikit kut. (ini point paling tak relevan dengan topik ni, tetapi aku saja letak untuk lengkapkan 10 point).
Akhir sekali, tak payah la think big nak pergi international la whatsoever, cuba betulkan apa yang ada, tingkatkan kualiti. Kalau kualiti dah ada, orang akan datang dengan sendirinya.
#28
Posted 20 August 2008 - 12:51 AM
En Hamid Othman ada lagi, di fakulti FTMSK, opis bukan lagi di Menara.
Opis dia, ada lecturer lain masuk, tapi sign depan pintu still sama.
Dialah lecturer FTMSK yg cuba bawa perubahan dengan get student involvement dalam campus system development, and give the students some monetary incentive. Tapi, sayangnya, orang mcm ni, tak di hargai, because apa yg dia buat,approach dia, unorthodox. Fakulti prefers staff yg follow the line/norm.
Well abdrahim_abdmajid comment's sums it all. Harap2 lecturer UiTM dr FTMSK dan yg terlibat secara langsung ambik perhatian.
Yeah, we may not be academician, but our comments are from real-world experience, not theoretical test-labs.
#29
Posted 20 August 2008 - 12:26 PM
This post has been edited by fatah: 20 August 2008 - 12:32 PM
#32
Posted 20 August 2008 - 07:38 PM
iseymen, rugi.
Masih x terlambat lagi nak bayar fees early bird HITB.
#33
Posted 20 August 2008 - 08:35 PM
Rasa aku pun bagi lah sepatah dua kata..
First of all, aku nak berterima kasih pada semua comment2 yg telah diberikan..
And Tahniah kepada pemenang2 semua..
Sepuluh jari memohon maaf untuk sebarang kekurangan...
(yang aku tanya soalan untuk Ryan bkn baca script la (^^))
Aku nak share la beberapa points ngn korang semua in term of perspective aku..
STUDENT PROJECT PRESENTATION
Basically, bukan aku suka hati nak biarkan dieorg present simple2 thing..But committe aku dah ajak ke semua IPTA and IPTS (not sure kalo ada yang tertinggal) untuk hantarkan wakil. But in the end..Only couple of students shows up..SO last resort kena la tarik je budak2 yang ada untuk join... Like people said...Late is better than not coming..So something is better than nothing...Aku betul2 harap in the future...IPT would send really talented and security project from student..The objective of having this SPP pun untuk industries cari candidates for their companies..
TALK AND FORUMS
Student should take de opportunity.. dengar talk2 n response to it..Like Mr.Ryan. Team Cymru is basically looking for peaople here in Malaysia because they just set up a base here. Even Lee and Kevin, people responsible for hex project. Basically, about talk and forum, student kena lebih eager to ask question n tanamkan minat menimba ilmu...
HACKING COMPETITION
Congrats for UTP...Undisputed champion for the mean time....Let's wait for the future.. Will someone step up and grab those status fomr u guys?? (^^)
WORKSHOP
Basically, contents wise..I quite statisfied...Thx to adli (CyberSecurity) and Din (KPT). Hopefully student yang join workshop ni xbalik empty handed and a mission in mind..To gain more knowledge..
Anyways, any comments from u guys.. We from the committe of iHack08 menerima dengan hati yang terbuka.. semua comment2 ni adalah untuk meningkat kan lagi quality of iHack yg seterusnye..
I really hope.. Before we really concentrate on the "i"..look into the content too...
Thanks. (^^)
#34
Posted 20 August 2008 - 09:05 PM
sewa hotel uitm 2 malam
satu malam = 150 ringgit
jadi aku masuk bengkel, talk dan forum.
antara 3 benda ini, bagi aku bengkel kira oklah
dari talk dan forum.
sebab dalam bengkel aje budak ramai bertanya
talk pada hari jumaat - sorang pun tak tanya
forum pada hari sabtu - adalah beberapa orang bertanya
tapi aku tanya derect terus kat adli pasal isu kes imam perlis kena tipu duit dalam bank
lebih selesa tanya face to face
tapi isu yang penting kat sini
kebanyakan student taknak bertanya
sebab tak tahu nak tanya apa hehehe
aku rasa kan mungkin jarak pentas dengan kerusi peserta tu jauh sangat
kalau sama level, mungkin ....
#35
Posted 20 August 2008 - 09:23 PM
iseymen,
hitb tu agak mahal la.
cantik spek,
pinjam
#36
Posted 21 August 2008 - 12:16 AM
hitb tu agak mahal la.
cantik spek,
pinjam
Mintak jadi 'crew' or 'proctor', buat keje cabling etc, jadi usher etc, dapat masuk session for free.
Tanya mnajem, member dia ramai jadi 'crew' or 'proctors'.
#37
Posted 21 August 2008 - 07:43 AM
Tanya mnajem, member dia ramai jadi 'crew' or 'proctors'.
tu kena tanya Dhillon Andrew Kannabhiran .. dia rajin reply email.
#38
Posted 22 August 2008 - 03:29 AM
bila masa lak aku main warcraft...?
#39
Posted 22 August 2008 - 07:05 AM
Aku tak maksudkan kamu.
#40
Posted 22 August 2008 - 10:51 AM
When did I play Warcraft? Or was it Fatah that played warcraft?
#43
Posted 23 August 2008 - 05:25 AM
pastu universiti ni pulak nya, bukan nak bagi peluang student nak test2. bak kata orang di atas2 sana, tak rosak tak hancur pun network nya. satu benda lagi aku lupa. tajuk final year projek pun suruh orang tolong carikan, tau tunggu nak buat documentation je.
yang aku pelik, orang2 macam ni sangat tekun pergi ke kelas,tidak pernah ponteng. bangga jugak aku part ni kat diaorang. tapi bab buat project, boleh kira berapa kerat dan berapa potongan kepala yang buat sendiri cari sendiri.
meh aku senaraikan sikit2 contoh kejadian yang berlaku dalam universiti
1)bayar rm30 kat orang setup server dhcp kat ubuntu(patut ke tak patut). apa kata bayar rm30 guide je
2)salin ayat kawan sebab nak jawab soalan lecturer, sebab nak kasi nampak hebat dan berilmu
3)cakap nak belajar buat projek sama2 tapi ending nya sorang je mati keras buat projek.sapi punya susu, kambing dapat nama sabun susu kambing.
itu jela setakat ni, bahasa dan huruf pun tak berapa betul harap maaf ya. Huruf besar huruf kecil dan space tu terabai sekejap.
sekian
#44
Posted 23 August 2008 - 11:06 AM
pastu universiti ni pulak nya, bukan nak bagi peluang student nak test2. bak kata orang di atas2 sana, tak rosak tak hancur pun network nya. satu benda lagi aku lupa. tajuk final year projek pun suruh orang tolong carikan, tau tunggu nak buat documentation je.
yang aku pelik, orang2 macam ni sangat tekun pergi ke kelas,tidak pernah ponteng. bangga jugak aku part ni kat diaorang. tapi bab buat project, boleh kira berapa kerat dan berapa potongan kepala yang buat sendiri cari sendiri.
meh aku senaraikan sikit2 contoh kejadian yang berlaku dalam universiti
1)bayar rm30 kat orang setup server dhcp kat ubuntu(patut ke tak patut). apa kata bayar rm30 guide je
2)salin ayat kawan sebab nak jawab soalan lecturer, sebab nak kasi nampak hebat dan berilmu
3)cakap nak belajar buat projek sama2 tapi ending nya sorang je mati keras buat projek.sapi punya susu, kambing dapat nama sabun susu kambing.
itu jela setakat ni, bahasa dan huruf pun tak berapa betul harap maaf ya. Huruf besar huruf kecil dan space tu terabai sekejap.
sekian
rm30 untuk setup dhcp ?
aku nak!!!
$$$$$
#45
Posted 24 August 2008 - 09:10 AM
This post has been edited by fatah: 24 August 2008 - 09:11 AM
#46
Posted 24 August 2008 - 09:52 AM
last time aku suruh orang google untuk "term yang perlukan penjelasan panjang" dah kena cop "kedekut ilmu"
kadang2 ada orang self denial mereka ni pemalas
#47
Posted 24 August 2008 - 08:44 PM
So, bila UiTM/FTMSK punya lecturer/student deploy SNORT, FW etc etc?
Lab ada, budget ada...student ada, semua adalah. Will jek takde, or lecturer yg sanggup nak take up the responsibility je takde.
UiTM Shah Alam dah ada campus wide WIFI ke? Kalau takde, WTH? Bajet beratus2 ribu buat perabis berpesta 40 hari 40 malam untuk konvo tuh baik buat benda yg lebih berguna. Pelik IPTA kat mesia ni, konvo is like such a big damn thing.
Standard la, kat US, kalau grad summer je ada konvo, grad spring or fall ke, dah balik negara masing2 baru school hantar ko punya degree. Tapi,infrastructure, gempak.
#48
Posted 27 August 2008 - 05:25 AM
Lab ada, budget ada...student ada, semua adalah. Will jek takde, or lecturer yg sanggup nak take up the responsibility je takde.
UiTM Shah Alam dah ada campus wide WIFI ke? Kalau takde, WTH? Bajet beratus2 ribu buat perabis berpesta 40 hari 40 malam untuk konvo tuh baik buat benda yg lebih berguna. Pelik IPTA kat mesia ni, konvo is like such a big damn thing.
Standard la, kat US, kalau grad summer je ada konvo, grad spring or fall ke, dah balik negara masing2 baru school hantar ko punya degree. Tapi,infrastructure, gempak.
WIFI???
signal maxis aku pun kadang kala takde line
#49
Posted 27 August 2008 - 11:20 AM
University of Nottingham, Malaysia Campus is WIFI ready
However its for the University folks only le, intergrate with AD..
Youtube is also allowed
#50
Posted 27 August 2008 - 02:08 PM
However its for the University folks only le, intergrate with AD..
Youtube is also allowed
UTM pun kebanyakan kolej kediaman lingkaran dalam pun dah ada. Sama juga, youtube is also allowed. Websense filtering ada jgak untuk menapis port-port tertentu.

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